Posts by Aussie Oz

the whole court victory of candace brings into sharp focus the fundamental flaw with the jehovah's witnesses, and one that all jws need to think on because it has absolutely nothing to do with 'apostate' teachings, their cherished doctrines or persecution.. when the truth can no longer speak the truth, it has become the lie.. it should be obvious (but will not be) to all jws that the watchtower society, its leaders and any other entity related to it, are not able to morally defend their position.

being unwilling to own up and publicly admit the policies on abuse perpertrators has been deliberatly flawed, that they have failed the children and families demonstrates they can no longer speak truth.. that they cannot apologise says they cannot speak truth, that they would appeal a court of law for chastising them by awarding such a payout says they cannot speak truth.. that the governing body hide behind a legal corporation and its legal department says they cannot speak truth, for the truth is out.

the truth is that their 'signed' policy letters to elders detailing instructions on how to comply with laws while not really complying, on how to destroy documents and how to draw up new lists after removing names are now in the public domain like it or not.

Aussie Oz

The whole court victory of Candace brings into sharp focus the fundamental flaw with the Jehovah's witnesses, and one that all JWs need to think on because it has absolutely nothing to do with 'apostate' teachings, their cherished doctrines or persecution.

When the truth can no longer speak the truth, it has become the lie.

It should be obvious (but will not be) to all JWs that the Watchtower society, its leaders and any other entity related to it, are not able to morally defend their position. Being unwilling to own up and publicly admit the policies on abuse perpertrators has been deliberatly flawed, that they have failed the children and families demonstrates they can no longer speak truth.

That they cannot apologise says they cannot speak truth, that they would appeal a court of law for chastising them by awarding such a payout says they cannot speak truth.

That the Governing Body hide behind a legal corporation and its legal department says they cannot speak truth, for the truth IS out. The truth is that their 'signed' policy letters to elders detailing instructions on how to comply with laws while not really complying, on how to destroy documents and how to draw up new lists after removing names are now in the public domain like it or not. The truth IS out that they move pedophiles around, the truth IS out that they silence victims. Keeping silent, pretending to have done the right things is not speaking truth. The congregations should have no need to keep things from the law, no need to protest or slow down search warrants, they should be the shining example of co-operation but are in fact, the opposite.

The truth IS out that they have for decades done wrong and no amount of putting it down to 'an imperfect organization or men' can cover that fact. They need to, but are unable to, publicly repent and tell the world that they have been as sinful as the catholic church that they have long cast stones at. They need to put right the wrongs. That they will not says they can not speak truth any longer, and have not for decades.They had a chance to clean house in the days of GB mark 1, when Chitty and Greenlees 'resigned'. These men's sins or actions were no secret to the Governing Body and nothing proper was done or said. The Watchtower Society kept silent, moved these men around rather than being bold by publicly dealing with them and letting the world know, that the Jehovah's witnesses were diferent to all the other religions in deed and in word. Instead they chose to say nothing and live a lie. The chance passed and was lost. Now it is up to 'ceasar' to bring forth the Watchtowers rotten fruitage for the world to see.

The oft referenced scripture of how there is ''nothing hidden that will not be revealed'' can and does apply to them.

The 'truth' is the 'lie'. IF their is a God, the WT cannot be his people. I was taught that 'god' had a clean organization. The Jehovah's Witnesses world wide should hang their heads in shame and demand an accounting from the seven old men at the helm. Gods organization may need a legal department to gain the right to preach, but certainly should not need one to keep dirt secret. But what else can be expected from an organization who's 'first' president was a fraudster with dubious contact with a minor and who's second lived like a true cult leader complete with indescresions involving young women? When an organzation is rotten, it's from the top down, not the bottom up.

Watchtower society, YOU are a dirty disgusting entity, a slur on humanity. You are incapable of truth, YOU ARE THE LIE.

Your doctrines, teachings, ideals are irrelevant now. It is a waste of time and resources try to 'prove' you have the 'truth' to people. Actions speak louder than words they say, and you will reap the whirlwind of disbelief. The world derides the Catholic Church for its clergy scandles, and you are going to join them in the publics mind.

good luck boys...you are gunna need it. (oh, i forgot, you don't believe in luck) Don't waste your time waiting for Jehovah either i say, you know better than anyone that he aint there...and if he was, he walked away from you a long long time ago.

Oz

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The legal team must be in overdrive this past week with Sparlock ,Candace Conti , things usually come in three`s ,what`s next I wonder ?

by smiddy in

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this may be the making or breaking of the legal department of the wtb&ts with whats happened these past weeks,they may have to go on stress leave with all this extra workload they have to contend with , and if another catastrophe should hit them ?

holy toledo ,they just might have to rely on jehovah ( wait on jehovah ) to get them out of this mess , that they have created for themselves.. smiddy.

Aussie Oz

I doubt it, they have a lot of lawyers and legal teams, one office probably has no idea what the other is working on...

oz

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Do you really thing the GB has a clue of the affect they have on the R&F?

by mynameislame in

i work at a very recognizable company (hint they are the father (mother?

) of the tla).

as one of the rank and file at that company i can say even my direct manager has no clue what my job is like on a day to day basis.

Aussie Oz

I see the GB as reactive product magangers, (separate from the corporate mangement which i think is as clever as a room full of mafia lawyers).

the GB react to what the underling reports upline, they learn what is going down and get the writing dept to spin some new shit to try to control it. On top of that, they read here and other sites and construct stratagies to deal with what they are learning.

oz

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Are you up and down all night?

by compound complex in

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i am - every hour or so - but last night i slept for 5 hours uninterrupted, and this despite 4 cups of coffee late afternoon.

still can't account for what was for me tantamount to a full-night's sleep .... .

do you sleep well most nights?.

Aussie Oz

varies... sometimes i sleep fantastic with sweet dreams, other times not so lucky!

i get real heavy restless legs sometimes, other nights i just get up and have a warm milk or something and surf the net for a while. Havent sprung out of bed feeling refreshed for more years than i can remember. Bed at 9.30 body clock goes off around 7am. second fave wake up is if wife brings me a coffee in bed and i sit there for 20 mins...you can imagine the 1st...

Lately i have taken to no drink after 7 and i dont need to get up to pee in the night!

oz

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How Will The Watchtower Handle Disclosure?

by metatron in

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for me, the disclosure of ufo's as being real is just matter of time.

it's not a matter of any mayan calendar or galactic alignment.

it's simply the eventual outcome of increasing and increasingly bold ufo observations.

Aussie Oz

DEMONS and world leaders being fooled by DEMONS as well as 'experts' fooled by DEMONS, the 6 oclock news run by DEMONS.

Unless perhaps they land, Mars attacks style and start vaporizing bethelites in new york...then it will be APOSTATES dressed as aliens doing SATANS work...

did i mention satan and demons?

oz

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Australians! Please help!

by Las Malvinas son Argentinas in

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friends

i have an oral presentation tomorrow, and i need to know the correct pronunciation of a few geographical features in your country that i can read on paper, but have never heard in spoken language.. so please, if you will, spell out for me phonetically how you would say the following:.

1. adelaide.

2. melbourne .

Aussie Oz

and finish the presentation with

''ozzie ozzie ozzie, oy oy oy!"

dont sweat it...no aussie's will be there to correct you!

Oz

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Thought Reform and the Psychology of the 'Safeguard Your Heart!' 2012 Convention

by breakfast of champions in

to make attendance at my second district convention "mentally out" both a little more bearable and meaningful, i decided to take some notes of key points as if i were an outsider studying the thought reform methods of jehovah's witnesses.

at first, i was only going to share these notes with my therapist, but inspired by the "parsing the watchtower double-speak" thread, i figured i would share my amateur analysis with everyone.

here are some of the highlights:.

Aussie Oz

-do not harbor doubts as to whether Jesus is ruling as king of his kingdom

-the Faithful and Discreet Slave gives ample evidence that we are in the last days and that Jesus is ruling as king

Very interesting.

Are there perhaps rumblings among the faithful with 2014 so close? I can imagine the question: has Jesus really spent one tenth of his thousand year reign doing bugger all?

Also interesting that the definitive proof of the last days is no longer what the biblical account says, but what the F&DS (GB) say.

oz